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R.I.P RPI

Postby lawrencevgibson » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:43 pm

The NCAA announced Wednesday it has developed the NCAA Evaluation Tool, known as NET, to replace the RPI as the primary sorting tool for teams under consideration for the NCAA tournament.

The change is effective immediately; NET will be used instead of RPI for the 2018-19 season.

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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby Tom Servo » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:25 pm

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... system-rpi

To me it sounds pretty similar to KenPom, which it says will still come into play as well when looking at NCAA/NIT team selection.

Will be interesting to see what difference it actually makes - if any...
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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby 83Ace » Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:55 am

The question is to what extent they will actually use NET in making decisions. Middle Tennessee was 30 in RPI last year and did not make the NCAA. Valley teams have had similar experiences in previous years.

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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby Acepurple71 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:35 am

Everyone knows the P-5 conferences would rather they and they alone are in the tourney. Anyone that says different is fooling themselves. This is just another way of cutting out the Mid Majors Watch and see.

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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby 211N-69 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:13 am

The article is somewhat obtuse in defining all the metrics that apparently didn't exist with RPI, which would suggest that the old system wasn't efficient and the new one will be. That despite everything in the article suggesting that a P-5 team that beats somebody at home (duh) and has a stronger schedule will get more credit. I don't see how that helps the mid-majors. Capping point spread at 10 seems a little bizarre, as if to say there are automatic differences the system will subjectively ignore in order to create an artificial sense of fairness.

All that established, it seems to me that the people who will run this computer agenda will be paid for it. It's just a different company, one that has marketed itself as more reliable. At the end of the season, the only Valley teams in the tournament will be the one that wins the Arch ... and the one that gets an NIT bid.

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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby UE0958 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:49 am

Hey with this new 10 pt Cap according to NET we hung tough with Duke and only lost by 10 last year! LOL

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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby pafan » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:23 pm

RPI was not efficient. Duke beating the Aces last season by sixty-some points gave Coach K roughly the same amount of credit as beating Indiana by 10 at Duke would have (if that game had been at Cameron instead of IU), because the formula did not use margin of victory at all.

RPI 's strength of schedule component provided an incentive for Quixotic road games.
It was undoubtedly better for a team like the Aces to go on the road to Cameron Indoor and lose by 60 than than to go to Ball State and lose by 4.

There were other flaws with RPI, but I'm not certain the NET fixes those so I will refrain.

I agree that a 10 point cap seems too tight. I would have lobbied for 20 had I been on the NCAA's committee. A 10 point game is not a blowout. A 10 point game is a 4 point game when Marty Simmons has the guys foul on 6 straight possessions late, and the other team is competent at making free throws. A 20 point game is a blowout.
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Re: R.I.P RPI

Postby letsgoAces » Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:39 pm

I don't like the idea of "scoring margin" being factored into the rating.


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