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Re: Game Times

Postby acecard » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:34 am

Tom Servo wrote:
muni cup14 wrote:Just another reason on why our attendance has been down.Why would
someone pay 15$ for a ticket when for 5$ a month they can watch the
game on line.Home games should be blacked out within 50 miles.


To me that is a garbage excuse, games were on Channel 14 for years when 10,000 people were there and you could watch that for free. In addition, the games that have been on FSN Midwest have usually been some of the strongest draws over the years. The data just doesn't back this up.

The people who say they'll just watch it at home are not ever going to go anyway, so it really means nothing.

The whole idea of them being on TV is for people to get some exposure to them so eventually they'll come to a live game - well worth it in my opinion. Much better than burying their head in the sand and waiting for the people to show up like UE used to do.

To me, having the games at 1:00 PM on Sat and 6:00 PM on weeknights is a whole lot bigger issue than having them on ESPN + which a big percentage of people probably have no clue how to use.

Seeing an exciting product, a winning team, and having fun, has more to do with attendance than ESPN3 does. I am very thankful that UE is able to stream games, on whatever media, as there are those who cannot physically attend the games, and would not be able to see them otherwise.

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Re: Game Times

Postby PurpleWhiskers » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:01 pm

muni cup14 wrote:Just another reason on why our attendance has been down.Why would
someone pay 15$ for a ticket when for 5$ a month they can watch the
game on line.Home games should be blacked out within 50 miles.


Couch potatoes will never leave the couch. We all know one. I have a couch potato friend (who is not disabled) who for decades has sent his wife to Target to buy his clothes. I do not want to gear UE basketball to entice immovable humans. I am thrilled that UE games are now televised and archived so that I can attend the games and then rewatch them to see what I missed. Attending a live sporting event is far, far superior to watching one on TV. Blacking out telecasts is a terrible idea. Exposure increases fan support and ticket sales. Being invisible has never been a good marketing strategy.

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Re: Game Times

Postby E-Villan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:28 am

Tom Servo wrote:
muni cup14 wrote:Just another reason on why our attendance has been down.Why would
someone pay 15$ for a ticket when for 5$ a month they can watch the
game on line.Home games should be blacked out within 50 miles.


To me that is a garbage excuse, games were on Channel 14 for years when 10,000 people were there and you could watch that for free. In addition, the games that have been on FSN Midwest have usually been some of the strongest draws over the years. The data just doesn't back this up.

The people who say they'll just watch it at home are not ever going to go anyway, so it really means nothing.

The whole idea of them being on TV is for people to get some exposure to them so eventually they'll come to a live game - well worth it in my opinion. Much better than burying their head in the sand and waiting for the people to show up like UE used to do.

To me, having the games at 1:00 PM on Sat and 6:00 PM on weeknights is a whole lot bigger issue than having them on ESPN + which a big percentage of people probably have no clue how to use.


Totally agree Tom. The only people that are going to go to the trouble to stream a game are the die-hard fans. Most of those would much rather be in attendance than sit at home and stream. The casual fans, the 6K we have lost in the last 15 years, are not streaming games. Those are the people we need to entice to a game, and an option to stream games has no bearing on that.

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Re: Game Times

Postby PurpleWhiskers » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:02 pm

E-Villan wrote:
Tom Servo wrote:
muni cup14 wrote:Just another reason on why our attendance has been down.Why would
someone pay 15$ for a ticket when for 5$ a month they can watch the
game on line.Home games should be blacked out within 50 miles.


To me that is a garbage excuse, games were on Channel 14 for years when 10,000 people were there and you could watch that for free. In addition, the games that have been on FSN Midwest have usually been some of the strongest draws over the years. The data just doesn't back this up.

The people who say they'll just watch it at home are not ever going to go anyway, so it really means nothing.

The whole idea of them being on TV is for people to get some exposure to them so eventually they'll come to a live game - well worth it in my opinion. Much better than burying their head in the sand and waiting for the people to show up like UE used to do.

To me, having the games at 1:00 PM on Sat and 6:00 PM on weeknights is a whole lot bigger issue than having them on ESPN + which a big percentage of people probably have no clue how to use.



Totally agree Tom. The only people that are going to go to the trouble to stream a game are the die-hard fans. Most of those would much rather be in attendance than sit at home and stream. The casual fans, the 6K we have lost in the last 15 years, are not streaming games. Those are the people we need to entice to a game, and an option to stream games has no bearing on that.


You may be showing your age. Younger people are comfortable streaming movies, games and everything in between. The TV rabbit ears crowd are the ones who get frustrated by that confounding technology. That's why they still pay for landlines.

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Re: Game Times

Postby E-Villan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:20 pm

It's not about age. I am quickly becoming an old fart, but I do stream regularly. With that said, casual fans do not have enough interest to make an effort to find the game, pay the $5 and stream it. Those who don't have enough interest in attending games, are not going to drop $5 and go through the trouble. ESPN+ is not affecting attendance, good or bad.

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Re: Game Times

Postby stennisrm72 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:36 pm

The age comment is BS. I'm a boomer and haven't had a landline for 7 years. I implemented an iPad based manufacturing execution system at 3 plants for my employer. I'd rather play basketball than watch but father time has eliminated that. Since I have to watch, I choose to do it in person. I'll stream the road games that aren't practical to attend.

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Re: Game Times

Postby IBLEEDPURPLE » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:20 pm

Young, old
Couch Potato, Marathon Runner
ESPN, No ESPN
Streaming, No Streaming
Black Outs, No Black Outs
Tech Savvy, Old School and tech stupid..

.....We start playing exciting, winning basketball vs good competition with a great coaching staff trumps all the above and make it a mute point.

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Re: Game Times

Postby Nasir » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:59 am

I used to begin work at 9 P.M. and only saw the first half of every weekday game. Life is a struggle but I'd rather see half of an uptempo game than all of a Marty traffic jam game. For every fan that can't get there by 6 there may be another who couldn't stay until 9. We will just have to adjust.

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Re: Game Times

Postby PurpleWhiskers » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:38 pm

With only one 6pm home game left and 5 in the books, we have numbers to work with. The highest attendance for a 6pm game was Drake at 5503. There were 4 non-6pm games with higher attendance and 7 non-6pm games with lower attendance. The overall average attendance is 5239. The average of 6pm games is 5003. The average of non-6pm games is 5356. On average there were 353 less attendees at 6pm games. Is that because of the early start time or because weeknight games are not good for some people? There is a clue. The only weeknight game that was played at 7pm only drew 5049. That game against Final Four Loyola would probably have drawn more fans if it was played during the day on the weekend. Regardless, the early start time didn't cause the sky to fall but I still prefer 7pm.

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Re: Game Times

Postby ncace » Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:55 pm

The athletic department needs to survey season ticket holders before they make decisions regarding game times, promotional events, anything that is attendance-related for next year. The season ticket holders provide a wide enough survey base and it's pretty easy to formulate questions that can elicit preferences that can give fans what they want, leading to great turnouts next year. It's also very easy to conduct the survey (Survey Monkey, etc. etc.)

This year proves that we have a supportive fan base, that could REALLY "get on board" in the season to come and for the next few years. Last year was a good start, but there is SO far that we can go. I hope UE will listen to what fans have to say and make adjustments accordingly.


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