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More BenFred on Dru

Postby 211N-69 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:52 pm

Ben seems a bit defensive about all this. Seems to imply everything U of E is doing is a lie and that somehow he's managed to discern all that with ample evidence.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns ... 89704.html

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby mybigpurplebrain » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:02 pm

He got caught and now he is on the offense trying to save his job.

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby 211N-69 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:04 pm

Ben seems intent on one thing as his last graf tells us ...
U of E is playing by the rules but the fast-changing trend in the sport would suggest that this sort of thing will soon be the norm, so get in on the ground floor by cheating to help Mizzou out of a tough spot.

Walt and Spencer ought to call the NCAA right away and tell them they plan to lie because, after all, BenFred thinks that's good for basketball at Missouri.

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby Ad1770 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:08 pm

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby stennisrm72 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:29 pm

211N-69 I appreciate your insight on the media side of this along with Pat Hickey's. I think your analysis of this issue is spot on about the journalism here. If I'd have washed out of engineering at UE, sports journalism was my backup plan.

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Postby PurpleWhiskers » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:03 pm

211N-69 wrote:Ben seems a bit defensive about all this. Seems to imply everything U of E is doing is a lie and that somehow he's managed to discern all that with ample evidence.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns ... 89704.html


The more I read about "entitled" big school elitists the more I like Mid-Majors.

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby wildbill » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:16 pm

mybigpurplebrain wrote:He got caught and now he is on the offense trying to save his job.



Stl PD is really going down hill. They really miss Bernie Miklas (resigned for radio job) and Joe Strauss (he died). This Ben Fred guy is a joke, and not far behind is the guy from Colorado. This fake news BenFred put out on the Dru Smith situation should be on the level of termination. It is no wonder people dislike the media tremendously.

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby 211N-69 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:42 pm

stennisrm72 wrote:211N-69 I appreciate your insight on the media side of this along with Pat Hickey's. I think your analysis of this issue is spot on about the journalism here. If I'd have washed out of engineering at UE, sports journalism was my backup plan.

Ha! Spent a lot of Friday nights at the gym to be sure. Too many Saturdays at the ballpark.
Told a lot of friends, how great it as to watch sports and get paid for it. But it does get very tedious after awhile.
Loved small college football the most of anything I ever did ... it's as unpredictable as can be.
Hickey comes from a different generation and I don't envy that. In my years, we knew many things in the locker room that stayed there. Now, if a writer knows it and doesn't tell, some phony-axx blogger will report it and the legit beat writer will look like he's 'owned' for not telling it first.

Sports writing was always flavored with homerism. That was the fun part of it. Did we care who won? Hell YES!

So I get it about BenFred's column. He is writing about Mizzou and that's great. I don't think he handled this one correctly and I wish he'd try to fix that. He hasn't. He may have other wonderful columns and insights. I don't much care. To that end, being old and not in the media now, I can say my interest is in the success of U of E basketball. Days come and go, and I wish I could be a beat writer again -- for a month in March.

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby ncace » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:28 pm

I am truly impressed with the insights of our resident scribes who have "been there, done that", regardless of generation. We are a small fish in Evansville vs. STL, Indy and L'ville, just as Springfield is to STL and Peoria is to Chicago. Some of this BenFred trash is big city arrogance, some of it is possibly an isolated piece of bad journalism among an otherwise reasonable portfolio of work. I'm sure that BenFred thought he had a scoop, and that he could somehow serve to influence a decision from the NCAA. This, in itself, is wrong, and the damage he's caused by inciting trash talk directed to recruits is truly deplorable. As as been said in other media discussions, "words matter," and when they do damage, responsibility needs to be placed, and a price should be paid by the writer and the paper.

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Re: More BenFred on Dru

Postby stennisrm72 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:02 pm

For the locals, my daughter bowled with Dave Johnson's kids about 10 years ago. Dave was the sports editor for the local paper and wrote many columns. I think he may have covered the Aces some. I don't see him at all any more but his thoughts on this might be interesting. Dave said what he thought whether you liked it or not.


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